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1497) Curt 
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West Coast
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Tuesday, December 8, 2015 10:57 PM Write a comment

(1497) And here's what a February day looks like out here. Compare this with the Ft. Leonard Wood photos; I'm glad other people save these kinds of photos besides me.

I'm in there, I have red hair again. For some reason my hair shows as red in these Army photos. I guess the Army turned me into a red-headed step child for three years. Yes, that's me right there.

OK, here's a story I get to share: I drove a taxi for a time about 15 years ago and I was taking a fellow and his wife to the airport who'd been here for a convention. Turns out he'd been here for an Army combat engineer reunion or convention of some type, and he'd been a retired NCO of 30 years or so. So, naturally I started talking about 12 Bravo things and Germany, and of course that led to 12 Echo talk. And, incredibly, this ex-command sergeant major had never heard of 12 Echo or ADM at all! When I began mentioning 12E and Germany, I looked in my rear-view mirror and saw that he had a totally blank look on his face and was staring straight ahead out the windshield; his wife was staring intently at the back of my head. Then he said "Tell me of this ADM." I was honestly taken aback for moment for here was a career NCO in the combat engineer MOS specialty field (whatever the MOS designation is for upper-ranking NCOs) who had retired who knows how many years prior to our meeting in 2000 or 2001, whenever it was, who had never heard of 12E or what they did.

I gave him a vague description of what ADM stood for and then we were at the airport and that was the end of that. But I've been thinking about that ever since, how this person could have served for so many decades without ever even hearing about ADM is near impossible to imagine. Has 12E been gone for that long not only in reality, but in legacy also? No one talks about it any more? To be honest with you I never even told my parents about what I did in 12th Engineers' Headquarters Company (or the ADM part, anyway) but I did find out that the FBI had been to our neighbors when they were investigating me for my security clearance. I doubt that they ever told my parents anything as I suppose they lied to the FBI about the Kennedy years anyway (and that's a whole 'nother story), and the only reason I'm posting here is someone else brought it up first. I never would have posted any of this on my own, but I guess Glasnost has made us all free. Right?

But here we had an ex-command sergeant major who honestly drew a total blank on the subject. Are 12 Echoes really a forgotten breed? That is, in all honesty, truly tragic as now America is denied the truly inspirational legacy of a group of soldiers, an elite group of Americans that apparently the nation will never have again. Is that right?

Curt Wednesday, December 9, 2015 04:45 PM
Left a part out: That's Drill Sergeant Creekmore who was and still is the most terrifying person I've ever met. According to the computer his combat patch was Marine: a 2nd Bat, 1st Marine patch having a vertical numeral "1" with Guadalcanal written in it. I remember that as I've never seen it anywhere else and it stuck in my mind as he was literally terrifying his entire platoon. No joke; see his bull neck. It's wider than his head.
1496) Curt 
Location:
West Coast
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Tuesday, December 8, 2015 09:13 PM Write a comment

(1496) What a December sunset looks like where I live. At least off my porch, anyway. Not too bad, but it looks a lot better on the beach.
1495) Bob P 
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Thursday, December 3, 2015 02:29 PM Write a comment

Anyone remember the guys who transferred from the 509th in Eschborn to the 567th in Hanau. I seem to be unable to locate them.
1494) Larry Fukalek 
Location:
Clovis, Ca
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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 07:09 PM Write a comment

(1494) Basic Training, Ft. Knox, Kentucky ~ 24 Nov 1962 to 9 Feb 1963
1493) Curt 
Location:
West Coast
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Sunday, November 29, 2015 03:41 PM Write a comment

(1493) My Ft. Leonard Wood AIT photo. I'm in there.
1492) Curt 
Location:
West Coast
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Sunday, November 29, 2015 03:38 PM Write a comment

(1492) Civil service tests can be fun. Here's the old federal 300_C clerical test. Wasn't just for clerks, it covered a lot of gofer jobs. It's gone now, all the test results weren't deleted, they were actually shredded back in '99 when they changed the hiring practices at the OPMs.

Some of these tests can be really interesting if you like those kind of things. This one was entertaining.
1491) Curt 
Location:
West Coast
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Sunday, November 29, 2015 02:12 PM Write a comment

(1491) Non-ADM post: A trophy.
1490) Curt 
Location:
West Coast
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Sunday, November 29, 2015 02:00 PM Write a comment

(1490) Happy Thanksgiving for those who celebrate the holidays! A plaque with some sort of doggerel; it's on unstained wood with knots.

One thing I remember before everyone left for Hanau is ADM math: There was no jocularity when the math behind the science was being taught, the joking manner in which other Army courses usually included was supposed to be absent in ADM math. That's the way I remember hearing it, anyway, and it's probably good advice.

But learning through nature, they always say answers to many questions lie around you. Knots are good, I guess.

However history chronicles things, the Hanau move might be viewed differently through the generations, but it's certainly a done deal now. One knotty problem, alright.
1489) Don Reed 
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Thursday, November 26, 2015 03:28 PM Write a comment

Happy Thanksgiving.
From sunny 80 degree Florida

Rick Murray Saturday, February 13, 2016 10:38 AM
Hey Don! Will never forget the weekend trip we took to Minden and actually help serve drinks from behind the bar. I'm on Facebook too. Just type Rick Murray from Williamstown, KY in search bar and click on invite.
1488) Peter 
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Thursday, November 26, 2015 11:53 AM Write a comment

(1488) 40 years ago.
Which one is me?
1487) Charlie Bell, MSG, Ret 
Location:
Lancaster NH
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Thursday, November 26, 2015 11:26 AM Write a comment

Here's hoping everyone has a wonderful & blessed Thanksgiving with family & friends. Thank all of you for being a part of MY life.
1486) dw 
Location:
tucson,az
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Monday, November 23, 2015 11:28 AM Write a comment

happy dance
Spam tastes good;but Turkey is special for this week!
Hoping everyone has a bountiful Thanksgiving celebration with thier families and friends.

Thank you Peter for keeping site running.

Dave Wright
1485) Charlie Bell, MSG, Ret 
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l
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Sunday, November 22, 2015 04:57 PM Write a comment

Thanks DW: This is the 2nd time that I know of. Good luck to Peter. Keep up the good work.
1484) Charlie Bell, MSG, Ret 
Location:
Lancaster NH
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Saturday, November 14, 2015 09:54 PM Write a comment

Damn Spammers.
Are you OK Peter????

dw Thursday, November 19, 2015 01:32 PM
razz (stick out tongue)
Peter told me he is well.He is having site set-up to elimiate Spammers,having a small program issue.He might have to close site and reopen again.He was hacked!
dw
11-19-2015
1483) Kevin McGinnis 
Location:
Sunbury, NC
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Wednesday, November 11, 2015 02:53 PM Write a comment

Hello everyone and I want to thank you all for your service to your country. It can't be said too much. A shout out to members of the 4th/6th plt that I recall: James Whalen, David Holt, Wendell Forsythe, Roger Rodriguez, Chris Collins, Warren Wheeler, Gary Barnett, and others I can't recall right now. Where are you guys now? I hope everyone is doing well. Have a great Thanksgiving and Christmas.
1482) Larry Dinnell 
Location:
Sarasota, Florida
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Friday, October 16, 2015 08:25 AM Write a comment

Hello ADMers! How is everyone doing?

Charlie Bell MSG (Ret) Wednesday, November 4, 2015 07:42 PM
Still alive & kicking Larry.
Have a great day and disregard these Spammers.

Larry Fukalek Thursday, November 5, 2015 04:49 PM
Still alive & Kicking, one day at a time
1481) dw 
Location:
tucson,az
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Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:39 AM Write a comment

(1481) Cheers!
More fishing areas on east coast.-not real good fall colors yet.
Dave

Charlie Bell, MSG, (ret) Saturday, October 17, 2015 07:37 AM
Great pictures Dave. Maine coast maybe??

dw Sunday, October 25, 2015 09:33 AM
cool
Yes Charlie,some are Maine coast,some are Prince Edward Island.Pat&I took a Globus bus fall foliage trip.We ate really fresh seafood!We had a good time.The fall colors were not fully changing-late because of all the rain.
Dave

Cliff Rondeau Monday, November 9, 2015 02:37 PM
My wife and I just returned from a trip to VA, RI, CT, NH, and VT. Saw some good foliage and hooked up with a long lost ADM'er - Bob Robinson!
1480) dw 
Location:
tucson,az
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Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:35 AM Write a comment

(1480) wink
Another fishing area-nice ship.
Dave
1479) dw 
Location:
tucson,az
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Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:32 AM Write a comment

(1479) roll eyes (sarcastic)
Wow what a cool place to camp over night!
Dave
1478) dw 
Location:
tucson,az
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Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:28 AM Write a comment

(1478) wink
Famous old Scotish sailing ship.It brought many scots to east coast!
Dave
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